M.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy

Kaia Evolutions

New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.

M.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a podcast that goes behind the scenes of the dance world. In a realm often portrayed as glamorous and perfect, we share candid stories that show the highs, lows, and dedication of dancers and movement artists from all backgrounds. Our mission is to normalize their experiences, challenge stereotypes, and illuminate diverse paths. Each episode provides a safe space for personal anecdotes, struggles, and pivotal moments, aiming to widen the understanding of dance. Join us as we break free from scripted narratives and reveal the true heart and soul of this art form.

A podcast for dancers and movement artists illuminating the person within the process of visceral artistry.
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S2 E24 Shares Mini Series: What happens when we share authentically?
19-12-2024
S2 E24 Shares Mini Series: What happens when we share authentically?
Send us a textIn the Season 2 FINALE Mini Series Episode, Eileen + Amy ask 4 questions to each other, the public (reading their responses) and past guests (sharing audio clips they sent in) from best and worst audition stories to cross-training to euphoric moments within the dance process to what they want to tell their bodies. The conversation emphasizes the importance of shared experiences and serves as a celebration of the journey and the lessons learned along the way (both within the industry and while reflecting on Season 2).Resources / Mentions:BackstageWill Rogers FolliesLagree FitnessWalking for Good Health5 Surprising Benefits of WalkingGyrokinesis / GyrotonicsFunctional Range Conditioning / MobilityCrow (or Crane) PoseWim Hof (Breathwork) MethodAlexis BlakeBallet HispanicoKolb’s 4 Stages of LearningBill T Jones / Arnie Zane CompanyQuestion Answer Order:AuditionsHannah SeidenLisa D. LongJordan EagleErin KeiCross-trainingHannah SeidenLisa D. LongAngela JoyJordan EagleErin KeiDance EuphoriaHannah SeidenLisa D. LongBody TalkHannah SeidenLisa D. LongAngela JoyOutroHannah SeidenSupport the showM.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on IG at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on IG at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.com*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.
S2 E23 Eileen Kielty + Amy Kubat: Because the body never lies.
11-12-2024
S2 E23 Eileen Kielty + Amy Kubat: Because the body never lies.
Send us a textGuests: Eileen Kielty & Amy KubatMovement Artists / Alchemists / Podcast HostsIn this interview episode, Eileen and Amy ask each other 2 questions each; engaging in a deep conversation about self-advocacy, personal growth, and the patterns they recognize in their dance and movement. They share personal stories of advocating for themselves in challenging situations, the importance of emotional awareness, and how their experiences shape their artistic expression. The discussion also touches on the significance of recognizing movement patterns and the relationship between emotions and physicality in dance. They explore the intricate relationship between movement, emotions, and self-expression in dance; discussing the importance of allowing the body to express itself without judgment, the role of emotions in choreography, and the necessity of understanding and feedback in the creative process. This episode emphasizes the significance of staying present with one's internal patterns and the impact of external perceptions on self-expression culminating in a reflection on the need for understanding and validation in artistic endeavors, highlighting the profound connection between movement and emotional truth.This episode comes with an activation warning; please take care of your body.Eileen (she/her) is a queer multi-disciplinary artist, teacher & performer as well as a clairsentient intuitive movement coach. She has degrees in both dance & psychology as well as extensive training in somatic integration, embodiment & intimacy practices & is passionate about consent-driven spaces with an emphasis on social justice. Eileen has held countless positions within the arts, fitness, wellness & educational space....Amy (she/her) is a movement artist based out of California. She has received her AA, BA, and MFA in Dance as well as certifications in Acrobatic Arts, Function Range Conditioning and is working toward her certification in Bodymind Dancing. Amy has followed her heart and instincts over her 20 year career into a vast and wide ranging assortment of dance techniques and jobs...For Eileen + Amy's full bios, click HERE.Mentions / Follow:S1E10: Amy InterviewS1E11: Eileen InterviewWindow of Tolerance - check out S2E6: Nervous System Mini SeriesSupport the showM.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on IG at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on IG at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.com*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.
S2 E22 Professional Paths Mini Series: So…NYC or LA?
04-12-2024
S2 E22 Professional Paths Mini Series: So…NYC or LA?
Send us a textIn this Mini Series episode, Eileen and Amy explore the contrasting dance cultures of New York and Los Angeles, discussing the pressures dancers face when choosing between the two coasts. They delve into the dynamics of the dance industry, the impact of representation, and the challenges of auditions in LA through Amy's experiences. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding one's own path in the dance world, the sunk cost fallacy, and the evolving opportunities available to dancers. In this conversation, Eileen and Amy discuss the complexities of the dance industry, particularly focusing on the differences between working in LA and New York. They highlight the lucrative opportunities available, the harsh realities dancers face, and the scarcity mindset prevalent in the industry. The discussion also touches on the importance of community, the challenges of making choices in a saturated market, and the dangers faced by performers during events like the Thanksgiving Day Parade. Resources / Mentions:Episode 22 SlideshowAriana DeBose 75th Tony Awards Opening NumberAGVABody TrafficLADPSummation DanceCalArtsHeidi Duckler DanceDiavoloJulia’s EpisodePilot Season is the entertainment industry's prime time for launching new shows. It's when networks and streaming services are searching for fresh faces and new talent to bring their latest projects to life.Kristin Chenoweth is the Original “Glinda” in WickedSupport the showM.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on IG at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on IG at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.com*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.
S2 E21 Angela Joy: Because creativity is sacred.
27-11-2024
S2 E21 Angela Joy: Because creativity is sacred.
Send us a textGuest: Angela JoyMusic EnthusiastIn this interview episode, Eileen and Amy speak with Angela as she shares her experiences in the arts, the impact of her upbringing, and the significance of music and comedy in her life. The discussion delves into the challenges of the audition process, the importance of resilience, and the sacred nature of creative expression. In this conversation, they discuss the complexities of navigating the dance industry, focusing on the balance between improvisation and structure, the importance of recognition and support in auditions, and the struggle for authenticity in a competitive environment. Angela emphasizes the need for dancers to embrace their unique voices while also addressing the emotional labor involved in auditions; touching on the joy of collaboration and the power of specificity in storytelling through dance, culminating in a reflection on the intersection of faith and creativity. The profound connection between creativity, spirituality, and the human experience is explored as well as Angela's journey of self-discovery amidst the constraints of a conservative upbringing and the challenges of the dance industry. Themes of body image, church trauma, and the importance of inclusivity in performance art are covered as well as the need for a shift in the narrative surrounding dance, advocacy for a celebration of passion over physical appearance and a more inclusive approach to casting and storytelling in the arts. Angela (she/her) loves music, the language of movement, and drawing faces on her kneecaps. Soli Deo Gloria.Follow / Resources / Mentions:IG: @joybecause Website: https://www.angela-joy.com/MTV’s “Say It In Song” was the name of the flash mob show.Wendy SeybMichael MindlinPost Modern Jukebox: “The Thong Song”Gaga“Images & Idols” Book“Wired for Music” BookRita Moreno - “Anita” in West Side Story discusses brownfaceLauren AndersonSupport the showM.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on IG at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on IG at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.com*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.
S2 E20 Creative Process Mini Series: What is the difference between practice, rehearsal and performance?
20-11-2024
S2 E20 Creative Process Mini Series: What is the difference between practice, rehearsal and performance?
Send us a textIn this Mini Series episode, Eileen and Amy explore the nuanced differences between practice, rehearsal, and performance within the creative process, through the lens of dance and movement artistry. They emphasize the importance of personal investment in practice, the collaborative nature of rehearsal, and the execution of artistry in performance. The discussion highlights the need for intentionality in each phase to foster growth and connection with the audience. They go on to explore the often overlooked contributions of ensemble dancers, the evolving dynamics of dance training, and the impact of social media on dance careers; emphasizing the need for a clear distinction between practice, rehearsal, and performance, and advocating for valuing the artistic process and self-worth in the dance industry. This episode highlights the challenges dancers face in a rapidly changing environment and the importance of recognizing their artistry and contributions within and without it.Resources / Mentions:Episode 20 SlideshowInstagram reel that inspired this episode.@bunmisimpleCyd CharisseAriana DeBoseCharli D’AmelioS2E8 Professional Paths Mini Series: What part does value play in how dancers see themselves?Support the showM.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on IG at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on IG at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.com*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.
S2 E19 Caileigh Scott: Because my body is my ally.
13-11-2024
S2 E19 Caileigh Scott: Because my body is my ally.
Send us a textGuest: Caileigh ScottPerformer / Storyteller / Movement ArtistIn this week's interview episode, Eileen and Amy talk with Caileigh Scott and explore the journey of reconnecting with dance after illness, the multifaceted identity of movement artists, and the importance of sensitivity in performance. They discuss the integration of various artistic expressions, the role of vulnerability in creativity, and the significance of feedback in the arts. The conversation highlights the everyday inspirations that move artists and the need for understanding and empathy in the creative process. They also dive into their journeys as dancers, focusing on the challenges and triumphs of navigating their height, body image, and the impact of feedback in dance. Caileigh shares personal experiences related to her breast cancer diagnosis and treatment and how it has shaped her relationship with her body and movement. The dialogue explores themes of self-acceptance, the pressure of societal expectations, and the importance of taking up space in the dance world; emphasizing the need for validation and the empowerment that comes from embracing one's unique movement style. The mind-body connection in healing and the necessity of being an ally to one's body is discussed and what redefining success in the dance industry, advocating for inclusivity, and creating welcoming spaces for all body types in dance looks like. Caileigh (she/her) is a storyteller and movement artist whose creative practices include acting, writing, comedy, and dance. She is also a social impact producer committed to elevating the voices of women and nonbinary folks.Activation Warning: Sensitive topics discussed, please take care of your body.Follow / Resources / Mentions:IG: @caileighscottWebsite: Project SelfKim Hale“Fancy” by Reba McEntire“Rising Strong” by Brené BrownBeth NicelySutton FosterOnco-Ballet Foundation - FREE classes for cancer survivorsBreast Cancer ResourcesSupport the showM.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on IG at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on IG at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.com*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.
S2 E17 Nora Schell: Because we can impact the rooms we are in.
30-10-2024
S2 E17 Nora Schell: Because we can impact the rooms we are in.
Send us a textGuest: Nora SchellActor / Singer / SongwriterIn this interview episode, we speak with Nora on navigating the complexities of the arts industry discussing their experiences with mental health, body positivity, and the importance of community support. The conversation delves into the challenges of being a performer, the role of advocacy in the arts, and the impact of negative feedback on self-esteem. Nora emphasizes the need for change within the industry and the importance of creating safe spaces for artists. They share the impact of their medical challenges on their career and the need for support and solidarity amongst their colleagues. Experiences with toxic education in the performing arts and the challenges of advocating for oneself in a high-pressure environment are touched on as well as the importance of kindness and growth in the industry, the privilege of being an educator and the responsibility that comes with it. Nora (they/them) graduated from The University of Michigan with a BFA in Musical Theatre and a minor in Gender, Race and Nation. They received Drama Desk, Drama League and Clive Barnes Award nominations for their Off-Broadway debut in SPAMILTON. Nora made their Broadway debut in JAGGED LITTLE PILL. They were most recently seen Off-Broadway playing Bustopher Jones in CATS: THE JELLICLE BALL. Nora will be performing all original music at the Perelman Center's Lobby Stage on November 2nd. Nora continues to cultivate a career focused on the intersection of performing and social justice. Love to Gregg Baker Management and their family.Follow / Resources / Mentions:IG: @noraschellmusicNora’s Statement I PCOS I NAMI I Spamilton I Cats: “The Jellicle Ball” I Bipolar 2 Disorder I Borderline Personality Disorder I Drama Desk Awards I Drama League Awards I Clive Barnes Foundation I Bryan PerriSupport the showM.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on IG at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on IG at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.com*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.
S2 E16 Injury Mini Series: Part 1 - So, how can we prevent injury?
23-10-2024
S2 E16 Injury Mini Series: Part 1 - So, how can we prevent injury?
Send us a textPART 1: This conversation delves into the complexities of injury prevention within the dance industry. The hosts discuss the high prevalence of injuries, the impact of collective trauma, and the importance of understanding both physical and emotional aspects of injury. They emphasize the need for a holistic approach to injury prevention, including awareness of muscle engagement, the role of touch in learning, and the significance of mindfulness in movement practices. The discussion also highlights the differences between chronic and acute injuries and the necessity of adapting teaching methods to individual body patterns. In this conversation, Eileen and Amy touch on the intricate relationship between body mechanics, self-perception, and the importance of proper training in dance; emphasizing the need for dancers to understand their unique body patterns, the significance of warm-ups, hydration, and breath awareness, and the role of mobility and joint training in preventing injuries. This episode encourages curiosity and self-discovery, highlighting that the process of learning and understanding one's body is as crucial as the end product in dance training.This is a Two Part Episode.Part 1: Episode 16 on 10.23.24Part 2: Episode 18 on 11.6.24Resources / Mentions:Episode 16 & 18 SlideshowJordan Eagle EpisodeLisa Long EpisodeLaban / Bartenieff Movement SystemSupport the showM.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on IG at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on IG at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.com*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.
S2 E15 Jordan Eagle: Because the only way is through.
16-10-2024
S2 E15 Jordan Eagle: Because the only way is through.
Send us a textGuest: Jordan EaglePerformerIn this interview episode, Eileen and Amy interview Jordan Eagle, a multifaceted performer and photographer. They discuss Jordan's journey in the arts, the pressures of identity within the performance industry, and the importance of community and storytelling. Jordan shares her journey with photography, her inspirations, and the nuances of supporting artists. The conversation also touches on the realities of being a performer, the challenges of navigating the industry, and the benefits of cross-training for physical well-being. In this conversation, there is an emphasis on the significance of rest and cross-training for dancers and the importance of both mobility and flexibility. Jordan shares her personal experiences with weightlifting, injury recovery, and the psychological impacts of being a dancer. The discussion also highlights the need for a supportive community and the normalization of comebacks in the dance industry, as well as the importance of understanding one's identity beyond physical capabilities.Jordan (she/her) is a musical theatre performer based in NYC. She has a degree in dance performance and choreography as well as Creative Writing. Over the years Jordan has performed regionally and in NYC cabaret clubs, taught dance and voice, and run her own photography business. Jordan currently works as a copywriter for Dancers Who Lift, a company dedicated to educating and empowering dancers in their nutritional and cross-training journeys.Follow / Learn More / Mentions:IG: @jordan.anne.eagle / @j.eaglephotographyTikTok: @jordan_anne_eagleWebsite: https://jeaglephotography.com/Avalon Artists GroupGavin CreelEnneagram TestMims Method Physical TherapyHSS - Jordan’s SurgeonsMary Linda GrahamSupport the showM.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on IG at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on IG at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.com*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.
S2 E14 Creative Process Mini Series: What is your choreographic process?
09-10-2024
S2 E14 Creative Process Mini Series: What is your choreographic process?
Send us a textIn this conversation, Eileen and Amy delve into the intricacies of the creative process, particularly in choreography. They explore the nuances of how choreographers and dancers interact, the steps involved in creating a dance piece, and the emotional responses that drive artistic expression. The discussion highlights the challenges faced in collaboration, the importance of inspiration, and the ever-evolving nature of creativity in the dance industry. This episode emphasizes the importance of understanding dancer needs, the role of breaks, and the collaborative nature of creating movement. They also examine various sources of inspiration, the significance of artistic intent, and the necessity of clear communication in rehearsals; delving into the importance of breath in movement and the overarching goal of restoring humanity within the dance process.Resources / Mentions:Episode 14 SlideshowCrystal PiteHortonGrahamSupport the showM.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on IG at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on IG at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.com*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.
S2 E13 Alice Robb: Because dance doesn’t always love you back.
02-10-2024
S2 E13 Alice Robb: Because dance doesn’t always love you back.
Send us a textGuest: Alice RobbWriterIn this engaging conversation, Eileen and Amy interview Alice Robb, author of 'Don't Think, Dear: On Loving and Leaving Ballet', exploring her journey from the ballet world to becoming a writer. They discuss the emotional complexities of loving ballet, the impact of dreams (in regards to her first book), and the importance of curiosity, especially as we learn. Alice shares her insights on body image, the need for change in ballet training, and how writing this book has allowed her to illuminate problematic themes that have influenced how some readers approach teaching dance moving forward. The conversation highlights the significance of inclusivity, the need for disruption and the acknowledgement of diverse paths within the dance world.Alice (she/her) is the author of two non-fiction books: Why We Dream (Picador 2019), which was translated into fifteen foreign languages, and Don't Think, Dear: On Loving and Leaving Ballet (HarperCollins 2023), which has been called “devastating” (New York Times); “beautiful, difficult, and compelling” (Vanity Fair); “nuanced, intimate” (Guardian); “enlightening, perceptive” (Wall Street Journal).  Don't Think, Dear uses her childhood at the School of American Ballet as a jumping-off point for an exploration of femininity, beauty, pain, the body, and ballet’s place in the modern world.Her journalism and essays have appeared in Vogue, Vanity Fair, the Washington Post, the Guardian, the New Statesman, the Financial Times, the Times Literary Supplement and elsewhere.Follow / Learn More / Mentions:IG: @alicelrobb Website: https://alicerobb.com/ Don’t Think Dear: On Loving and Leaving BalletWhy We Dream: The Transformative Power of Our Nightly JourneySharon EyalBatsheva Dance CompanyGagaHortonABT & SABSupport the showM.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on IG at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on IG at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.com*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.
S2 E12 Ageism Mini Series: How does ageism show up in the dance world?
04-09-2024
S2 E12 Ageism Mini Series: How does ageism show up in the dance world?
Send us a textIn this episode, Eileen and Amy discuss ageism in the dance industry. They share personal experiences and observations of how age is weaponized and how dancers are expected to retire at a young age. They explore the implicit age limits in auditions and the pressure to prove oneself before reaching a certain age emphasizing the importance of staying in the industry and advocating for older dancers to challenge ageist norms. This episode highlights the challenges of being an older dancer in a field dominated by younger performers and the lack of acceptance and opportunities for older dancers, the pressure to conform to societal expectations, and the impact of ageism on career prospects. They also highlight the importance of challenging these norms and creating a more inclusive and supportive environment for dancers of all ages.Resources:Episode 12 SlideshowSupport the showM.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on IG at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on IG at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.com*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.
S2 E11 Delaney Charlotte Burke: Because you’re not behind.
28-08-2024
S2 E11 Delaney Charlotte Burke: Because you’re not behind.
Send us a textGuest: Delaney Charlotte BurkeMovement Artist / StorytellerIn this interview episode, Delaney shares her journey in the performing arts, from shifting into a triple threat to finding her passion for dance. She discusses the challenges of training in a traditional dance program and the pressure to fit into codified techniques; emphasizing the importance of artistic expression and individuality in dance, and the need for more fusion and diversity in the industry. She also opens up about the constant feeling of needing to prove herself and catch up, but acknowledges the value of her unique path and the importance of self-motivation. In this conversation, Delaney, Eileen and Amy discuss the importance of valuing artists' time and the need to move away from mentorship that makes one feel less than what they have to offer. Delaney also shares her journey of dealing with knee injuries and the psychological and emotional challenges that come with it, recognizing the need for more support and understanding for dancers going through injuries and the importance of educating dancers about their bodies.Delaney (she/her) started dancing as a freshman in High School because of her love and passion for Theatre. She began to take it seriously because she knew she wanted to pursue it professionally by the time she was a sophomore. She furthered her studies at DeSales University where she was a Dual Major in Theatre and Dance. After college, Delaney started working professionally in her field. Her favorite credits include Mamma Mia (Mom Understudy), Godspell (Uzo Track) and Matilda (Swing). She is also in a contemporary Storytelling company, Thistle Dance. She continues to audition in person in NYC and take class under some of the greats at Steps on Broadway and Broadway Dance Center in all styles. She has promised to continue to stick her nose to the grindstone to make her dreams a reality.Follow / Learn More / Mentions:IG: @delaneycharlotteburkeWhat is a Saturn Return?Dr. Donald RoseWords That Move Me with Dana Wilson PodcastNo End, Only More (next group 9/3)Activation Warning: This episode contains sensitive topics including medical and surgical references. Please take care of your body.Support the showM.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on IG at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on IG at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.com*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.
S2 E10 Disordered Eating Mini Series: What fuels disordered eating?
21-08-2024
S2 E10 Disordered Eating Mini Series: What fuels disordered eating?
Send us a textIn this Mini Series episode, Eileen and Amy discuss the topic of disordered eating. They provide definitions and distinctions between disordered eating, intuitive eating, and eating disorders. They share their personal experiences with disordered eating and how it has evolved over time. The conversation also touches on the influence of societal and cultural factors on eating behaviors, as well as the prevalence of eating disorders in the dance and aesthetic sports industries. Eileen and Amy go on to discuss the transition from disordered eating to eating disorders and the coping mechanisms involved; exploring the connection between control, trauma, and body image, highlighting the impact of societal beauty standards. They also discuss the prevalence of eating disorders among athletes and the role of shame and secrecy in perpetuating these disorders. This episode emphasizes the importance of recognizing and addressing the underlying pain and trauma that contribute to disordered eating and how the dance world is a prime environment for food to be used as a coping mechanism to manage bodily autonomy, control and a sense of empowerment or sovereignty within a dancing body.Resources:Episode 10 SlideshowActivation Warning: This episode contains sensitive topics including eating disorders, abuse and self harm. Please take care of your body.Support the showM.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on IG at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on IG at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.com*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.
S2 E9 Liza Little: Because being an artist shapes the way you see the world.
14-08-2024
S2 E9 Liza Little: Because being an artist shapes the way you see the world.
Send us a textGuest: Liza LittleSculptorIn this interview episode, Eileen and Amy discuss Liza's journey from being a dancer to becoming a sculptor as well as the intersection of art and science, the importance of curiosity, and the challenges of the audition world. Liza shares her motivation to understand the self-image and the human body through sculpture and emphasizes the need for artists to step outside of their bubble and connect with the world around them. In this conversation, they also discuss how dance and sculpture meet, the importance of history and tradition in art, and the role of cross-training in their creative practices. The physicality and mindfulness of swimming as a form of cross-training and the need for dancers to be their own advocates is explored as well as the need for inclusivity and openness in the art world and the importance of celebrating different bodies and perspectives. Overall, this episode highlights the power of art to connect and express the human experience.Liza (she/her) is a figurative sculptor based in Queens, NY. Passionate for learning and driven by curiosity, Liza is always searching for connections between mediums. She graduated from the Certificate program at The Ailey School, studied at The Feldenkrais Institute, and The Art Students League of New York. She received a BS from The City College of New York with a Psychology major and Biology minor, and finished an honors research project in a neuroscience lab. In 2022, Liza received her MFA in Sculpture with a minor in Anatomy from the New York Academy of Art. She has received scholarships from Urban Glass, The Studio at Corning Museum of Glass, Penland School of Craft, and The Fantasy Fountain Fund for the Arts. Her sculpture practice uses ceramic, glass and stone to express the physicality of the human figure, especially of women. Recently, Liza‘s work was selected for the Libensky Award Exhibition in Prague, Czech Republic, among a cohort of emerging glass artists.Follow / Learn More / Mentions:IG: @lizagracelittle_sculptor Website: https://www.lizagracelittlesculpture.com/ Backstage.com I Robert Beverly Hale I Stephen Rogers Peck I Dr. Paul Richer I Feldenkrais Institute I Linda Celeste SimsSupport the showM.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on IG at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on IG at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.com*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.
S2 E8 Professional Paths Mini Series: What part does value play in how dancers view themselves?
07-08-2024
S2 E8 Professional Paths Mini Series: What part does value play in how dancers view themselves?
Send us a textIn this Mini Series episode, Eileen and Amy discuss the professional paths within the dance industry, focusing on the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders (DCC) as an example. They explore the narrow trajectory of competition dancers and the value placed on spectacle and entertainment as well as the transition from competition dance to college dance teams and the limited career options available. They also touch on the controversy surrounding the pay of DCC dancers and the undervaluing of their work. The episode highlights the need for change and a reevaluation of the implicit values and reasoning behind pay disparities and the devaluation of professional dancers, specifically focusing on the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders (DCC). They discuss the justifications given for low pay, such as the emphasis on sisterhood and purpose and highlight the control and exclusivity within the organization, as well as the devaluation of dancers' efforts, bodies, and voices. The conversation delves into the intersection of patriarchy, capitalism, misogyny, body dysmorphia, and gender pay gaps within the dance industry; emphasizing the need for dancers and industry professionals to value themselves and demand fair compensation.Resource:Episode 8 SlideshowSupport the showM.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on IG at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on IG at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.com*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.
S2 E7 Lisa D. Long: Because no matter the path, you are enough.
31-07-2024
S2 E7 Lisa D. Long: Because no matter the path, you are enough.
Send us a textGuest: Lisa D. LongCurious Human Being I CSUF Professor I Movement Artist I Choreographer I Researcher I AuthorIn this interview episode, Lisa D. Long, shares her journey in the dance world & her passion for teaching & supporting students. She emphasizes the importance of change, connection, & nature in her work. Discussing her research on mindfulness practices in dance & the positive impact they have on students' metacognition, critical thinking, sensory awareness, and emotional intelligence. Her goal is to make the dance journey easier for the next generation and provide them with tools to become better human beings. Additionally, Lisa emphasizes the importance of mindful rigor and holistic training in dance performance and the need for explicit teaching and clear communication in dance classes coupled with the value of creating a safe and supportive environment for students to explore and ask questions. Lisa also shares her personal experiences with receiving both positive and negative feedback in her dance career, and how she has learned to prioritize her own self-efficacy. She encourages cross-training and exploring different practices to enhance physical and mental well-being. Overall, Lisa advocates for a more inclusive and mindful approach to dance education & performance.Lisa (she/her) leads her life curiosity-forward. Her evolution thus far has flowed between dance, choreography, massage, education, and most recently, writing.For over a decade she danced professionally, first for Dallas Black Dance Theatre, and next was a principal dancer with Dance Kaleidoscope, under the artistic direction of David Hochoy, for eight years. She has created roles in works by...learn more here.Follow / Learn More:IG: @dlongdanceWebsite: https://dlongdance.com/Mentions:Book: 8.1.24 Cognella PressAlwin Nikolais I Dallas Black Dance Theatre I Dance Kaleidoscope I Martha Graham I Oregon Shakespeare Festival I Alexandra Beller I Dave Brailsford I Wim HofSupport the showM.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on IG at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on IG at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.com*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.
S2 E6 Nervous System Mini Series: How does survival mode affect the body? (Part 4)
24-07-2024
S2 E6 Nervous System Mini Series: How does survival mode affect the body? (Part 4)
Send us a textIn the final part of this Episode (Part 4), Eileen and Amy's conversation explores the concept of a dysregulated nervous system and its connection to unresolved trauma. They explore the impact of trauma on the sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous systems and how a dysregulated nervous system can lead to psychological, physical, and cognitive issues. Additionally, the window of tolerance is introduced as a period of optimal balance in the nervous system; delving into how somatic work, somatic integration, embodiment practices, and regulating the body helps to build the capacity of the window of tolerance. Various tools and resources for regulating the nervous system are mentioned as well.Resource:Episode 6 SlideshowSupport the showM.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on IG at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on IG at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.com*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.
S2 E6 Nervous System Mini Series: How does survival mode affect the body? (Part 3)
24-07-2024
S2 E6 Nervous System Mini Series: How does survival mode affect the body? (Part 3)
Send us a textIn Part 3 of this Episode, Eileen and Amy's conversation explores the concept of optimism and how it has been weaponized against dancing bodies. It delves into the importance of having empathetic witnesses and the impact of trauma on the nervous system. The five traumatic responses (fight, flight, freeze, fawn, and flop) are discussed in detail, highlighting their physical and emotional manifestations. They also emphasize the need for dancers to establish boundaries, challenge abusive behaviors, and cultivate a sense of self amidst societal pressures.Be sure to listen to Part 4 where they cover the nuances of a dysregulated nervous system, some terminology and some examples of how to regulate the nervous system.Resource:Episode 6 SlideshowSupport the showM.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on IG at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on IG at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.com*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.